Unless, of course, you're in the industrial-PVF business. The stainless-steel market is beginning to show signs of life again after an extended and deep hibernation, so maybe it was a collective sigh of relief from stainless distributors that inflated the positive data from PVF wholesalers responding to our 1999 Industrial PVF Survey. Or maybe many are thinking so positively that they can't bear to admit the truth. Or only the PVF wholesalers who are having a good year responded; the rest don't want to talk about it.